Clever Cygnet panel

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  1. Jul 24, 2019 #21

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    I need this for my son so its still on my list. What is the real shoulder width dimension?
     
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    Thanks for the video Matt. Can't wait to be flying in my own. Your door latches are different from what Sisler shows in his plans. Could you post a picture of those? Thanks for linking my build thread.

    Oh, yeah, the camera did great...

    David
     
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    Love the Cygnet! Doesn't it have kind of a long build time though?
     
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    I was very interested in the Cygnet. Good visibility and it seems to be an efficient little airplane. I was able to try one on for size and I don't fit. I am 6'1" with a long torso and the canopy wouldn't come close to closing. We do need the enlarged version!
     
  5. Jul 24, 2019 #25

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    Yes! Collaborate on a Super Cygnet (100-130 Hp.)..........that would be,,,,,, super!
     
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    That's the reputation because of the wings with the lattice and all the small pieces. One guy I talked to took a year and a half to build just the wings and he was very diligent with his time. So far I haven't gotten to work on it like I want due to adding onto my shop which has to be done (my self imposed timetable) before winter. We'll see if the reputation is true. There are a lot of pieces to the wing compared to other designs, but I enjoy the building too.

    David
     
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    I will capture a few pictures for you. I believe they are Zigs design he made everthing non structural out of Stainless. i owe Builder Jesse Gage pictures of my cylinder head probes. I added 3 more clip links in the description of my first video.

    Matt
     
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    Once around the patch 0700 today
    Loads of fun head to Oshkosh 0600 Friday.
     
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    Cygnet is good, but after years it deserve some development (I hope to build one):
    - better airfoil, higher placed wing like on MFI9, Bo208, P130
    - lower dihedral and sweep
    - smaller airfoiled tailplanes
    - wider cockpit
    - better cockpit cover - windshield
     
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    David I am looking forward to more build threads.

    I just came across a article by Paul Dye that provides some history on My Cygnet and building in general.

    https://www.kitplanes.com/cygnet-distinction/
     
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    Warning Mission Creep.... looks like I have room pending budgets to add a Kanardia HORIS either a 2-1/4 or 3-1/8 under the Altimeter two panel adds.JPG and possibly a compact Trig Mode S transponder and ADSB out under the MGL V6 radio. Just gets crowded and the big smile turn coordinator would have to shrink. I think I would prioritize the EFIS with built in AHRS because I don't currently have a way to get out of an inadvertent cloud... Adding AHRS to my MGL EFIS may keep the panel less cluttered. SP-7 or 9 http://www.mglavionics.com/html/xtreme_efis.html
    two panel adds.JPG
     
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    In Situ .jpg 90 degree Micro Protected .jpg ADS-B in for Cygnet SF2A. Panel space is at a premium and a dash is non existent. I have decided to place my Stratux under the rudder cables between the seat instead of randomly tumbling around in the cargo area. If the AHRS BOARD proves out with useful apps fixing on the center line will be an advantage. Tested the concept on the ground, was out of the way, accessible and it worked great on radios and GPS! It is important they stay put and do not get mixed up in the controls. No suction cup or adhesive strip will do,
    so I made a tray with 1/4" Birch ply and epoxy on hand. I have attached a few pre-spar varnish pictures.

    I plan to leave the Stratux in the plane and the battery bank will travel home and charge in the car/house between sorties. Should be good for 6 hours of flight.

    The tray will be secured with two screws to make it airworthy. Now to pull out the Helmsman Spar Varnish! More to follow.

    Enjoy

    Matt

    This short cable made it happen


    Also highly recommend everyone roll a Stratux unit for about $130 and 0.1hours of your time

    Edit: Added two in situ pictures I prefer the Battery by the trim tab. Temporary mount and confirm weather radio works at altitude then fasten the tray in!
     

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    Nice looking Cygnet showed up on barnstormers only needs a slight panel rearrange to be perfect. Appears to be an excellent value. I do not know anything about the build or seller. No economy of scale owning a fleet of them so I encourage someone on this list to go have a look.
    https://www.barnstormers.com/listing_images_zoom.php?id=1498387&so=4
     
  14. Nov 19, 2019 #34

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    Yeah, that one has caught my eye....
     
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    Well, this may turn "thread creep" to thread dash, but...

    Some of the ideas and techniques that Fritz has been playing with, for CNC tab & slot QB wood wings, might be pretty useful in making a 5-10% larger Cygnet derivative wing.

    The AL tube and gusset discussion we're having on another HBA thread would also be a potentially relevant option for the fuselage as well. Easy enough to scratchbuild with a chop saw and tin snips, and easy enough to CNC cut if someone put the time into making the cut files.

    The 912 Rotax, or perhaps the big old beloved Golden Retriever O-200, might yield a larger two seat airplane with the desirable aspects of the Cygnet. Put the fuel in the wings and address (my personal issue of) the canopy... a NAvion style sliding canopy perhaps... and there might be a neat airplane that comes out of it.
     
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    The Cygnet canopy is one of those "love it or hate it" kind of things. To me it's the most interesting feature on the airplane.
     
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    I like the Cygnet arrangement just fine but if the windscreen vertical post is not necessary then you could easily go with something along the lines of the Gardan Minicab forward-folding canopy.

    1602737-large.jpg Gardan GY-20 Minicab [LIMITED to 500px].jpg
     
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    It would also open up opportunities for using a Corvair or Aeromomentum conversion as well as using C-85 or 90.
     
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    Unless I'm misunderstanding (very likely) what you mean by vertical post, it's looks like the Minicab has twice the problem.
    Untitled.jpg
     
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    I believe that the Cygnet central post is a fixed structural element that provides the hinge points for the dual doors. The Minicab's dual vertical supports are part of and fold up with the canopy. See the detail below from the Minicab photo above. It would certainly be possible to do a Minicab-style canopy with no vertical supports at all, but I suspect it would be lighter, simpler, and easier to build it along the lines of the original, though perhaps with just one support so it's not in the pilot's line of sight forward. minicab canopy detail.jpg
     

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