# Can anyone help me identify this aircraft?

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1. Feb 13, 2020

### Fox

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I need help identifying and possibly getting an estimate on how much this --> http://imgur.com/a/PIJB1ZQ plane would sell for.
For some background, I inherited this plane from my grandfather who bought it from a friend of his. I have no place to store it so I am trying to sell it. It would be sold with the trailer included.
I am a fish out of water in this field, I know next to nothing. I posted it onto reddit but no conclusions were really reached. There is no paperwork with it, and it is quite old and ratty, so I can't imagine it's worth much.

2. Feb 13, 2020

### Dana

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Not a real old plane, looks like an ultralight made to look sorta like a Piper Cub.

3. Feb 13, 2020

### Derswede

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Looks very much like a J-3 "Kitten" or an N3 Pup, from Preceptor in N.C. (out of business...for reason). Looks a bit weathered, how long has it been outside? Will most likely need recover on all surfaces and an engine rebuild. If you could find a mechanic near you, he would be able to inspect and give you some better info. There are a couple of similar airplanes around here, the owners seem to like them. The J-3 is a time proven design.

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### BJC

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It has unique ailerons that have me stumped.

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### Turd Ferguson

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Agree, the full length, tapered ailerons should make it easy to identify whether or not it's from plans/kit or a one-off.

How much would it sell for? Probably ~$500. The trailer is the bulk of that value. 6. Feb 13, 2020 ### cluttonfred ### cluttonfred #### Well-Known MemberHBA Supporter Joined: Feb 13, 2010 Messages: 6,886 Likes Received: 2,522 Location: World traveler Agreed...not quite a Cub replicat from the shape of the rudder and ailerons but definitely ultralight-style construction. You might also consider a donation to a local vocational school, it could certainly be restored for static display and then put in a museum or hung from the roof somewhere. 7. Feb 13, 2020 ### Larrywal ### Larrywal #### Member Joined: Jan 13, 2020 Messages: 12 Likes Received: 9 Where are you located? 8. Feb 13, 2020 ### Fox ### Fox #### New Member Joined: Feb 13, 2020 Messages: 3 Likes Received: 0 [ I'm located in northern Utah 9. Feb 14, 2020 ### lr27 ### lr27 #### Well-Known Member Joined: Nov 3, 2007 Messages: 3,581 Likes Received: 542 If it's light enough to be a plausible part 103 aircraft, that might help a lot in reducing the paperwork. That would be 254 lbs or less. At least for law abiding pilots. 10. Feb 14, 2020 ### Richard6 ### Richard6 #### Well-Known Member Joined: Aug 14, 2010 Messages: 687 Likes Received: 78 Location: Plymouth, MN USA Do you know if it ever flew? Also are you able to identify the engine? I looks like an opposed twin. Perhaps if you remove some of the metal from around the engine, some of the people here maybe able to identify it. Richard 11. Feb 14, 2020 ### Jim Chuk ### Jim Chuk #### Well-Known Member Joined: Mar 31, 2013 Messages: 107 Likes Received: 10 Location: Chisholm Mn USA As far as the engine goes, did anyone besides Hirth ever make an opposed twin engine 2 stroke of this size? It looks like their 50 HP engine to me from what I can see. JImChuk 12. Feb 14, 2020 ### Jerry Lytle ### Jerry Lytle #### Well-Known Member Joined: Jan 3, 2014 Messages: 342 Likes Received: 118 Location: Newport, Oregon It is a Zenoah G-50 engine. Jim Chuk likes this. 13. Feb 14, 2020 ### Victor Bravo ### Victor Bravo #### Well-Known Member Joined: Jul 30, 2014 Messages: 6,599 Likes Received: 5,380 Location: KWHP, Los Angeles CA, USA You can probably get between$1000 and \$2000 for it on the open market (eBay, Barnstormers) as a guess. At least 2/3 of that value is the engine, and I have no idea what that specific engine is worth. It is definitely a major rebuild project but there are people who lik doing this, and when the airplane is rebuilt it will likely be a perfectly good little ultralight.

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### Marc W

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If it's in American Fork, that is between home and work for me. I could check it out if somebody wants a local look. I haven't done any aircraft wood or welding work, so not super qualified.

16. Feb 25, 2020 at 3:35 PM

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I'm the one who put it up on ksl, sold it to a guy from American Fork, he seemed pretty inexperienced as well and wouldn't be surprised if he sold it