# Barnfinds

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#### Yellowhammer

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This is an attractive little airplane but Isn’t it @\$15,000 is a little high priced?
Not at all!

#### Yellowhammer

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J4 being side by side is the oddball. A friend in high school had one. The L3 would be nice to have.

Airplane is not side by side. It is a tandem seating arraignment!.

#### Michael Silvius

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I would give an eyetooth for a J5. Big gentle cousin to the J3. I see a few J4s around but this is the first J5 that has caught my eye.
The do look nice and command a hefty sum when done up right.
Saw this one just refurbished in Hampton, NH a couple years ago.

#### Pilot-34

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Airplane is not side by side. It is a tandem seating arraignment!.
Lol isn’t a J-5 both ? Fly from front or back and it’s the BACK seat that’s both ?

#### Turd Ferguson

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3 seater for little people ! !

#### BJC

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The do look nice and command a hefty sum when done up right.
Was there ever a factory J-5 with an enclosed engine?

BJC

#### Mcmark

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Byron,
They called that the PA-12.

BJC

#### BJC

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Yup, the only long wing Piper that I have seriously considered owning (but never have), especially one with an O-320.

BJC

#### Mcmark

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Dad told the story of helping a friend who was contracted to tow banners with his J5 on a day when Dick couldn't and the gent who set it up changed the banner to a LOT more letters. Dad being a newb and green said sure. Said he dragged it in the grass and trees for quite a ways before he could get any altitude. Knees holding the stick, 1 hand on the go lever and the other on the release. Laughs now, but I bet he was shakin and shiverin like a dog crappin razor blades when it was happenin!!

BJC

#### Michael Silvius

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Was there ever a factory J-5 with an enclosed engine?

BJC
I don't know Piper history well enough to say. But yea the PA 12 was the updated J-5 with the enclosed cowl. You dont tend to see a lot of either in the lower 48 as there has been a high demand for them up in Alaska so a lot have wound up there.

#### Jerry Lytle

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J4 is side by side, very roomy cockpit.
The Piper J-4 Cub Coupe is a two place side-by-side version of the Piper J-3 that was built between 1938 and 1942 by Piper Aircraft. It was Piper's first model with side-by-side seating; combined with docile low-speed handling, this made it a good trainer.