Armor Plate Bullet Proof Headrest

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    TXFlyGuy

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    Here is something we put together, to replicate the armor plate that Mustangs had on their seat back.
    Recently had it powder-coated, and it turned out pretty nice.
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    Looks cool. How are you routing the shoulder straps to get them high enough to avoid pull-down/spinal compression? Or, does the padded seat back come up higher than the clavicle?

    The tops of this guy's shoulders look to be about 10" above the T-51's canopy rail, and that's about as high as the seat back comes and it is where the harnesses are routed. It is not a great situation. Your seat back (and the harnesses) look slightly higher than his, about 4" above the canopy rail?
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    Not intending to go down a rabbit hole on a shoulder harness discussion, as that has been beat to death on another thread. The seat back is higher, plus we have special layered memory foam in the seat bottom to help with ultra high G-loads.

    edit: We do not have stock, factory seats. These were custom made for us. Yes, maybe 6" higher than the canopy rail.
     
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    Having been to some airports where the neighborhood they are in are sketchy, I would want it to work. Doesn’t look right without one.
     
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    I agree...plus this will come in handy when my Glasair friend is on my "6".

    .22's would bounce off, but a .50 would go through it like a hot knife through butter.

    This is a detail item that very few Titan Mustangs have. In fact, very few P-51's have the headrest today.
     
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    I've definitely wanted to add armor plates and such to the stuff I'm working on. I'd like one that had some appropriate thickness however, so some kind of polymer or composite would be my direction with it. Hey they make HDPE armor now right? Why not use one (or a cutting board) for mine? They got thin panels that can stop intermediate rifle rounds so as long as the bad guys stick to rigging their aircraft with paintball guns I'll be invincible!

    I like yours for also considering the rear occupant doesn't want a massive chunk of material in their face, while getting the look across; and also is functional for supporting the actual padded headrest without a lot of framing.
     
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    A 1/2” thick composite panel could be finished to look like armor plate steel.

    BTW, a WW II fighter with actual armor and a gun sight, was not nearly as inviting as the modernized ones.


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    Ours is functional for whiplash protection. And it is easily removed (2 bolts) for the times we have a back seat passenger.

    Getting into and out of the rear seat with this in place is nearly impossible.
     
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    Some sketches with dimensions would be super, if you don't mind.
     
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    I will be back at the paint shop next week, to check and make sure everything is what we wanted. Getting some measurements, plus a sketch is on my list.

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    Seat foams will do nothing to reduce strap crushing loads. I'd have gone for look alike armour rather than weigh-alike. HDPE or some other plastic, then paint.
     
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    Thanks so much. We will take this under advisement. How is your replica P-51 coming along?
     
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    Ouch.....
     
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    I thought about commenting on that but decided to abide by TXFlyGuy's request not to derail the thread but I have to rebut that comment.

    They have a slight to modest effect (depending upon the thickness, the materials, their arrangement, and some of the variables of a crash (angle, etc)) but not as much as many people in GA think. A modified seat on S legs (think the Helio Courier modification that NASA tested and published a free paper on) would do far more.

    And I agree, it would have been better to go with something lighter and more malleable unless you're actually planning to get shot at. LOL
     
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    This is an armor plate / headrest thread. I guess thread drift / derailing is the rule here?

    A kind request was made. Thanks to those who have chosen to be gentlemen.
     
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