Any one have some info on the "Le Pelican"

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    I just came across this little bird and really like it. ( you know how some planes just set right with you )
    I couldn't find out much info on it other than it WAS a kit at one time. Has any one flew one or heard any negative things about this plane? This little bird just might fit the bill. 001-014.jpg
     
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    I met a guy once who had one and really liked it but I never saw the plane itself.
     
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    Percy's got one that he's restoring. Hopefully he jump on here with some firsthand info.
     
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    `Evening, Mr. Crow - we seem to be hearing a lot from each other lately! Good thing as I am a Social Butterfly. Wife calls me on it all the time... :)
    Yes, I have a carcus of a LePelican. Have worked on it, but now may be loosing my hangar space.
    I have the wings, which are the most pivotal part. The span is 37 feet, and they are made from sheet aluminum instead of tubes.
    Also have fuselage, rudder and gear. I have a -042 4-cycle engine that I have (sorta) fitted. Can PM with pictures, etc. K?
     
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    Percy,
    did you get my PM on this?
     
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    Not yet...
     
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    I just pm'd you, the previous was a email
     
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    Don't bogart the pictures bro... You could always post them here.
     
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    Hi, I couldn't find plans to download, only some YouTube videos, photos and some EBay offer.
    One partly similar plane is Stewart Headwind.
     
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    Remember this was a kit so "plans" for sale are an assembly manual.
     
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    20151018_fuse10.jpg 20151018_wing30.jpg 20151018_wing39.jpg Gonna quit for tonight ...
     
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    awesome, I would love to reverse engineer it to put all the parts in CAD. I did find some info on the later models going with a twin tube spar, as the single I- beam spar was a little weak.
     
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    Do you know what material he used on the D-tube? 6061? 2024? Something else? What kind of fasteners are in it, drawn rivets? Pulled? Something else? Are the d tube ribs metal or foam like a Lazair? Thanks for posting!
     
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    "I would love to reverse engineer it to put all the parts in CAD."
    With an airplane, Old C., "There is no such thing as far away." It is at 2J0; south of you.
    Have some drawings, but the wings will be problematic. Speaking of...
    I do not know the alloy, b7g. NDT way to tell?
    You should be able to see that the rivets are pulled, and a general idea. The wings are the heart of the marque. "D" tube has foam ribs, don't know how many or how far apart. Am always in the market for suggestions.
    20160828_1882.JPG 20190202_wing09.jpg 20190202_wing11.jpg
     
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    Rub on a small noncritical spot with some Scotchbright. If it's 2024 there is a good chance it's Alclad and you can see a difference between the 2024 and the 1100 skin once you rub through. My guess is it's 2024 rather than 6061. Other airplanes of the same era and construction type were 2024.
     
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    I see that 2J0 is only about 4 hrs from me. maybe when the weather cools a bit I could come down there and get some measurements?
     
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    If you could beg, burrow etc one of the hand held XRF metal analyzers lik emost of the scrap yards etc you syou could find out in a big hurry.
     
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    Eddy current machine can be used to check alloys.
     
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    I don’t have any direct experience with in-service alloy ID, but I have also heard that eddy current inspection can do it.

    At many shops, anything 6061 can be sent out the door without finish because of its good anti-corrosive properties, with no cladding or alodine even. 2024 not only needs primer and topcoat (if not alclad), it even often needs the fastener holes primed. Since the wing pictured is bare, I might lean toward a 6000 series alloy. That is, of course, unless the covering removal process involved stripping the finish off the d tube.

    Looks like the spar web and flange are just bent up bits of sheet stock eh? No wonder she’s so light.
     
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    "I see that 2J0 is only about 4 hrs from me."
    Would buy coffee/lunch, Old C! Attached is one sketch I accomplished.
    20190113_topTube.jpg

    "Looks like the spar web and flange are just bent up bits of sheet stock eh?"
    Exactly so, b7g. As are rib cap strips and aileron spars.
     
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