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Discussion in 'The light stuff area' started by BBerson, Apr 13, 2019.
Carbon fiber Corsair. Fabric cover. Yes very cool, but most expensive ultralight ever?
Ouch! That is 10x more than I'm dreading mine costing after building many parts twice...
Exactly my thoughts when I watched the video yesterday. I understand it is probably quite expensive to produce, which is a shame, because if it were a lot cheaper, they'd sell gazzilions of them!
Not a FAR103 ultralight.
It’s been talked about here before, but it was not for sale then. At the time I thought there was a 103 legal version. At least they were talking about it.
Well, he said it met FAR103. I guess he meant it meets the weight criteria and single seat criteria. But the speed criteria is not mentioned. Quite a few ultralights don't meet the speed criteria and the FAA doesn't enforce that (according to EAA).
Somewhere on the site it says lower speeds and weight for certain countries. With it's huge flaperons, it could meet stall speed. The weight is pretty close. Cap the top speed, and it's 103.
Whoah, wasn't it a mere $75k this morning? If it is going up that fast, could be a good investment!
For that matter they don't enforce weight limits either. Ever know anyone to get busted for an overweight UL?
No. But EAA said you might want to stay with only 5 gallons fuel.
It is kind of burdensome for a legitimate company to sell illegal but intentionally unenforced products.
AC103.7 advises the operator is responsible.... but still is a hindrance to widespread acceptance.
Enforcement is somewhat lax. Occasionally FAA will tell someone to stop flying their unregistered aircraft, or face the consequences. Since this is done on an informal 'stop it, or we'll make you EXTREMELY unhappy' basis, it doesn't hit the news, or even get recorded outside some FAA office.
A few lbs or kts and you bother no-one, you're probably fine. But, if the FAA want to, they can give you a very nasty kick in the wallet. Marketing a blatantly illegal aircraft seems a trifle foolish to me. The FAA is going to be attending many marketing opportunities, and whoever is flying it, needs to worry about an exemplary fine and it's effect on sales. Possibly why the debatably legal Blackfly wasn't demo-ed at OshKosh.
Doug Hughes got a 5 figure fine for his overweight UL...
Never mind, I looked him up. Let me rephrase my statement....has anyone "who hasn't landed on the Whitehouse lawn" been busted for an overweight UL?
I don't know about any overweight. But Mike Jacober got fined back in the late 70's for flying his Easy Riser on skis. This was when foot launch was the supposed rule.
I can point out 10-15 individuals in my area that are flying illegally now.
From fat ultralights - 2 seaters and no N# - expired medicals - out of Annual - no license at all......etc.
I think the FAA tries to turn a blind eye unless they are pushed into action by complaints or an accident report.
For the most part....if it looks like a duck and it doesn't act stupid.........well.
According to the website, the quickbuild kit is only $38,790 USD. And outside of the speed its 103 compliant as it only weighs 247lbs.
For an ultralight F-4u Corsair, if i had 40k to blow id have already bought it lol.
This pricing range is nonsense for a single seat kit, even if complete with engine prop and instruments.
We all know the airport/aviation community often contains people who might be considered "special needs", including the FAA.....I believe it is best to try to stay close to the regulations, because a complaint is just one "cut off" in the pattern away.
The kit being $38k wouldn't be that far out of line for a single seat sportplane with some decent performance (and I'm sure a Thatcher CX-4 can be built and flown for less than this), but, for something that would use a Verner 3-cylinder or similar powerplant and is essentially a heavy-ish 103 ultralight, it's definitely off the baseline.
Carbon fiber and Oratex certainly add up, I guess.
This whole thing just seems crazy. Who in their right mind would pay that kind of money for a slow airplane that vaguely looks like a warbird. For that matter if that was what I was looking for I would build a Baslee Foker EIII, Bleriot or other WW1 airplane that will look the part and fly at a speed that looks right. For that money I would buy a nice Cessna 170 and have some real fun...
To me this thing is the airplane equivalent tot he Pontiac Fiero/Lamborghini Kit...
addicted2climbing..... lay off the Fiero commentary dude.
I own 4 of them and convert them to Cadillac 4.9 V8 power & 3800 Super Charged power with NOS.
But yeah,you're right..........the body kits for Fieros are greatly overpriced...be it a wide body kit,Lambo kit or various other parts available.
It's just a niche market and they can ask those prices because of the limited numbers of sources for the parts.
I've always wanted a wide body kit like the posted car but he has MULTIPLE $1,000's of dollars just in the fiberglass add ons ...not including paint..etc.
Not worth it to me........but it is pretty.
Sorry to get off topic....just thought I would jokingly mess with you a bit.
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