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Saville

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I know this is slightly off topic but it's been bothering me for years and I cannot find an answer on the web:

What does "bis" mean? As in Nieuport 24 bis

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I know this is slightly off topic but it's been bothering me for years and I cannot find an answer on the web:

What does "bis" mean? As in Nieuport 24 bis
IIRC, it's along the lines of "modified" or "new version." From the Wikipedia entry on the Nieuport 24:

The 24 also received an entirely new rounded moulded plywood empennage incorporating a small fixed fin and a half-heart shaped rudder.[3] Use of the new tail was delayed, and most production aircraft were of the Nieuport 24bis model, which reverted to the Nieuport 17 type tailplane and rectangular balanced rudder but was otherwise the same as the 24.


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I know this is slightly off topic but it's been bothering me for years and I cannot find an answer on the web:

What does "bis" mean? As in Nieuport 24 bis

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Mostly Bis , because tail shape is little different from 24 .
 

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Mostly Bis , because tail shape is little different from 24 .


But what, exactly does "Bis" mean? I don't care about the specific aircraft differences..I want to know what "Bis" means....what does it translate to?

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I always thought it meant something like iteration or copy from the prototype. 24 would be the prototype 24 bis is the manufactured.
 

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I always thought it meant something like iteration or copy from the prototype. 24 would be the prototype 24 bis is the manufactured.

Ah ok so something like:

Nieuport 24 modified ?


I see that bis in French can mean "encore" so you might be right.

But what if there are several mods to the 24 - like 24A, 24B, 24C in US parlance?
 

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I think we are dealing with 19th Century French. Nieuport 14,17,24,27 are pretty much the ABC updates to the 11. 28 was clean sheet.
 

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No, it just mean "twice" in latin : bis - Wiktionary (etymology 2)
So because french is heavily grounded in latin and it was a mandatory subject for higher education (perhaps a bit less now, but still, I had a mandatory 1h a week in middle school 25 years ago) It is/was used a lot in science.
So yeah, just mean "second prototype"

Edit: hah! Juste looked at my link and it's the same root as the "bi" in Biplane ;)
 
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