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    Re: Replica home builts

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger Tim View Post
    Maybe not the holy grail in WWI replicas but I think the one that would turn all the heads would be a multi-engine German bomber.
    I *love* the idea of a 7/8 scale Imperial German bomber so you can flour bomb the Dawn Patrol guys in their 7/8 scale Nieuports. I'd go with a more conventional Gotha G.V and a pair if 3- or 4-cylinder Suzuki auto conversions instead of the original Mercedes pushers.

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    One teeny tiny problem might be the size. The originals had a 23.70 m (77 ft 9 in) span, so at 7/8 scale you'd be at 20.74 m (68' 0") span! Even 3/4 scale puts you at 17.75 m (58' 4") span. Where would you keep it? It's fun to dream....
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    Quote Originally Posted by cluttonfred View Post
    I *love* the idea of a 7/8 scale Imperial German bomber so you can flour bomb the Dawn Patrol guys in their 7/8 scale Nieuports.
    Actually, I can think of only one existing WWI multi-engine replica: The Vickers Vimy.

    And multi-seat replica WWI replicas are thin on the field, as well. Everyone wants to build a fighter. Other than a few Nieuport 10s, the existing replicas were generally done professionally...for movies or for museums.

    The problems of WWI replicas snowball when you try to build a bigger airplane. Engines become more difficult to arrange (IIRC, the Vimy had a major engine type swap) and they don't fly any better than their contemporaries...in fact, they're probably quite sluggish and un-fun to fly.

    The best-known multi-seat WWI replica isn't a replica at all...nor is it multi-seat. It's the "Boche Baby"; the "replica" of the Junkers CL-1 based on a single-seat Fly Baby.

    The gunner is a dummy. The Boche Babies really aren't THAT close to the original Junkers. But the WWI-fighter-replica community NEEDS a bad guy to chase, and the BB does pretty well. The Great War Display Team has a bunch of fighters attack their two Boche Babies during air shows. The BBs have smoke systems, of course, as well as guns fore and aft and dummy Mercedes cylinder heads.

    The Boche Babies are so ubiquitous that RC companies are selling "Junkers CL-1" models that are actually the Fly Baby version.

    It's actually a pretty good deal for the owner...conventional handling, with traditional Continental engines.

    The Boche Babies were even filmed for the "Flyboys" movie, though the footage wasn't used. I'm suspecting the producers didn't like them because they weren't biplanes, and "everyone knows WWI airplanes are biplanes." One of the Fly Baby community wants to do a Boche Baby conversion on a Fly Baby biplane.


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    Re: Replica home builts

    Quote Originally Posted by cluttonfred View Post
    I *love* the idea of a 7/8 scale Imperial German bomber so you can flour bomb the Dawn Patrol guys in their 7/8 scale Nieuports. I'd go with a more conventional Gotha G.V and a pair if 3- or 4-cylinder Suzuki auto conversions instead of the original Mercedes pushers.

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    One teeny tiny problem might be the size. The originals had a 23.70 m (77 ft 9 in) span, so at 7/8 scale you'd be at 20.74 m (68' 0") span! Even 3/4 scale puts you at 17.75 m (58' 4") span. Where would you keep it? It's fun to dream....
    You cant mention ridiculous sized bombers from WWI without mentioning the LLya Muromets.



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    Maybe something like this? I've always been drawn to biiplanes. I really like the old ones, well, who doesn't.

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    Re: Replica home builts

    A Flitzer biplane could easily be done up as a faux WW1 replica, since its entire existence is already based on a faux 1920's inter-war biplane

    Baslee's DH-2 pusher (Sharon Starks owns it IIRC) is unique and really well done. Just gorgeous and "something different".

    There really ought to be more of those, unless there is some unexpected problem with how it flies.
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    That Laird is a clean bird with good proportions. I dig it.
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    Re: Replica home builts

    If you want to replicate a German, multi-engine bomber, visit the Canadian Air and Space Museum at Ottawa/Rockcliff Airport.
    They have a beautifully restored AEG G.IV twin-engined bomber.
    Nearby is the only surviving Junkers J 1 ground-attack biplane which way ter sets me more. It was the first all-metal airplane to enter production. The corrugated were my skin is would be the most different components to replicate and I would delete most of the armour (surrounding the cockpit and engine me) to save weight.

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    Holy grail plane? Wow. Too subjective.

    Fokker Dr.I & Sopwith Camel would be the Peanuts influenced popular choices.

    I vote for the Fokker D.VIII as the last with the best nick name. The Flying Razor.
    & The Sopwith Triplane. A dead end, but very successful, and the inspiration for the more Famed Fokker.

    Both are available as kits (Fokker) or plans (Sopwith). Neither is "really original" in part because of lack of engine availability when the replicas were designed.

    The Rotec and Verner radials available today make a "looking good" replica easier today, but at a cost. The Jacobs, etc. radials used in the 40-50s are even more expensive, now. And if you win the lotto, you can get a brand new rotary from the Aussies. It's metal porn.

    Years ago the Fokker D.VIII was recreated with correspondence with the designer. My copy of the article is buried. Surely some here know the story.

    And 2 original engines for an Albatross were found in the corner of an East German warehouse. 2 replicas were built, ( both now in museums, but we're flown ) and The build log is well worth the hours to read. Wood porn!

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    The real problem with WW1 airplanes is that....as airplanes, they were pretty bad. Let's be honest.

    Air racers from a later time, however, can be great flying machines. True, the most famous, like the Bee Gee Model R Super Sportster, required demi god flying skills and discipline to survive, but there's a lot of them that were not deadly beyond belief.

    Just normally deadly. Like most of the small planes we love.

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    Re: Replica home builts

    Lynn Williams the Flitzer designer has been working on a Laird Speedwing version. Has nice lines.
    I got locked out of Yahoo so can’t follow its progress.
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    The ugly truth about replicas is engines. What are you going to power the thing with. With some of the small radials there is some hope, but most civilian airplanes until the advent of the opposed four are good size airplanes. Some reasons were structural and aerodynamic, but most was the engines with power were big and heavy. If you really build something super nice, someone like Kermit Weeks would buy it up and find an engine for it. Not homebuilt, but restoring a Monocoupe or a Rearwind is a worthy project. Can be cheap enough and it brings real history back to life. Same skills. Without some magical engine fairy, looking late 30s for dawn of 4 cylinder planes is really more realistic. Personally I think there needs to be another Knight Twister made.

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    Why couldn't you put a normal engine in it and faux some cylinders around to make it look proper?

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    In Italy there is the last Fokker EV/DVIII fuselage. In a museum and I believe there is a wing being made now for it. There have been a few replicas. In the 60s there were a lot of WW1 replicas coming out of Flabob. I know one was built there. I don’t remember if that one was part of the Champlain Fighter Museum collection or a different one. About ten years ago Achiem Engels built three at once; probably the best to date. There was a US replica at Oshkosh a couple years ago flying. One of my favorites.

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    Re: Replica home builts

    Quote Originally Posted by TFF View Post
    ... Personally I think there needs to be another Knight Twister made.
    Tom, I’m not sure that either one of us would fit in a KT.


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