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    2017 Going out with a bang.....Flat Turns

    Since comedy seems to be the order of the day I'll leave you with this parting shot...... Adios https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTGnh0rcQsc
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    2017 Going out with a bang.....Flat Turns

    Stick and Rudder which I believe is one of your favorite sources has this to say: Not sure why you feel a stable airplane cannot also be a responsive and controllable airplane but here is what 4 different professional pilots had to say about the SS. I can't answer that...
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    2017 Going out with a bang.....Flat Turns

    Nope, not avoiding the question, I just figure that its really not a good idea to post personal information about ones self on the internet. I have found that no matter how innocently the information is presented there are people out there who find a way to exploit it As I said, once before in...
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    2017 Going out with a bang.....Flat Turns

    No, I agree with you that safer airplanes will never completely relieve the problem, but they can help. No matter how much training is given, there will still be mistakes made....because we are human. The answer is that both can help and if used in concert with one another we can probably take...
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    2017 Going out with a bang.....Flat Turns

    I answered that question a long time ago, y'all must have missed it. Do either of you have any comments that are related to the subject at hand, such as why its impossible to build an airplane that might save someone from their own mistakes, or explain how the laws of physics aren't being...
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    2017 Going out with a bang.....Flat Turns

    Dan, I usually give you credit for thoughtful replies even if I disagree with you, but that comment is totally baseless. Its overly broad and mistated information like this that ruins useful internet dialogues. First tell us what these "vast sums of money" are that builders and designers are...
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    2017 Going out with a bang.....Flat Turns

    I decided to add the old Helio factory video just to show/remind people what a properly optimized slatted airplane is capable of. You can watch the whole video, but pay particular attention at the 2:50 and 3:20 marks of the video. Look at the controllability of this airplane, and its much...
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    2017 Going out with a bang.....Flat Turns

    Dan, we have all heard and probably used that oft cited cliche, but this is a serious topic and personal bias shouldn't cloud peoples judgement. Many things are incorporated into every design to make it safer. Lots of things can be upgraded without ruining the aircraft or overburdening a design...
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    2017 Going out with a bang.....Flat Turns

    Yes, of course that's why people fly co-ordinated turns....l'm certainly not disputing that. People also make mistakes and cross- control airplanes...often at the worst times.People overshoot the final turn all the time....and some die trying to make corrections. Obviously they don't...
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    2017 Going out with a bang.....Flat Turns

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    2017 Going out with a bang.....Flat Turns

    In the particular pair of journalistic revues I provided, both authors came to the SAME conclusions, not different conclusions. The test flights were performed ten years apart by totally different people.That should say something about their validity. When the airplane completed the manuevers...
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    2017 Going out with a bang.....Flat Turns

    As with most things, the devil is in the details. The Slepcev Storch has no similarity to a Super Cub or even a Zenith STOL in its lineage other than both the Zenith and the SS have fixed slats on their wings. They use different airfoils, different wing loading, weight,length, wingspan etc...
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    2017 Going out with a bang.....Flat Turns

    Here is the thing BJC, its the end of the year and I would like to put all the animosity to rest and start the new year with everyone having a more positive outlook toward one another. I hope to make today, Dec 31 a point where we can all accept that while we each disagree with the others...
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    2017 Going out with a bang.....Flat Turns

    Dan has a good point here, but that happened 15 years ago and the airplane has been refined since then. That was one of the very early models. I would be interested to know if there are any other Slepcev Storch crashes.....for any reason anywhere in the world during the last 15 years. One thing...
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    2017 Going out with a bang.....Flat Turns

    I purchased some old magazines the other day and received them today. Since the weather is quite cold, I decided to read some of them. I found an article in one of them about the design and flight testing of .....of all things...a Slepcev Storch.As I read thru the article I came across specific...
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    Fuel line installation

    I think the idea is that the black flexible tubing that is used in older airplanes is universally refered to as "rubber" in a generic sense. That particular item, whatever it is, and what ever its called , can and will deteriorate over time. For that reason it must be inspected at least yearly...
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    Fuel line installation

    The problem with quoting just Mil-6000 hose is that there are different types of hoses specified. A builder needs to research just which hose might meet his needs with the proper spec. Some are compatible with fuel and some are not. From what I'm aware of, the fuel hose available in older...
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    Fuel line installation

    I guess from my perspective certified airplanes originally came with rubber because that's all that was available at the time, and fuel was basically of one type. Once the rubber was used, it was therefore the only option for future replacement because of FAA regulations. In a home built...
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    Fuel line installation

    I think eventually any system you design and install will suffer from deterioration of some sort.... somewhere. Rubber on Adel clamps will eventually deteriorate, almost certainly there will be some chaffing somewhere. Inspections are a good thing and when issues are noted, they need to be...
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    Fuel line installation

    Each section of fuel line installation will have its own set of circumstances and its own solution. Generally incorporating bends isn't needed other than for purposes of routing around an impediment or simply for changing direction to reach a designated place. Ergo most lines won't be perfectly...
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