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    Perfect Rivets

    Not at all. I was pointing out subtleties in materials/equipment which are easily missed. I was also pointing out that "travel distance" is harder on the metal and age hardening often means the difference between success or failure since both are easily overlooked. Just basic principles in...
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    I said none of the above. I have been commenting the whole time about subtle details in materials and the equipment which is easily missed by both experienced people and beginners alike.
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    Perfect Rivets

    Spruce Forest; I wasn't talking about theory. I was talking about the subtle facts about materials, and problems easily missed, and the correct throw of a rivet gun in order to get maximum efficiency. This is how this equipment was designed and how it works in practice. That's all there is to it.
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    We appreciate your honesty. The overall point I have been making is to understand the materials and equipment and the most efficient and effective way to use them before trying. I am a believer in the effort of planning and research before execution. There are 3 subtle concepts people miss...
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    Perfect Rivets

    Thanks for confirming what I was stating earlier. Interesting information.
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    Perfect Rivets

    I don't think I was suggesting misuse of rivet guns. If you wish to use it incorrectly, go right ahead, good luck.🤣🤣🤣👍
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    Perfect Rivets

    It also looks like you hit it at an angle.
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    Perfect Rivets

    The set of the rivet can't be allowed extra travel distance the concept is the travel distance by the set as it hits the metal kept to a minimum.
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    Perfect Rivets

    They probably used solution heat treating. It still is used today on rivets.
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    Perfect Rivets

    I can tell the difference in age hardened rivets. I had an old set about 5 years old in the hangar and bought new ones and could tell the difference.
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    Perfect Rivets

    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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    Ok here's my conclusion: 1. Not applicable A 2x gun piston has a lower travel distance than the higher # guns and this short distance approaches the flexibility range of the aluminum. 2. True 3. True, buy new rivets which are not age hardened 4. Good for you 5. Good for you 6. Use a 2x...
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    Perfect Rivets

    🤣🤣👍
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    Perfect Rivets

    Really? I spoke with several top sheet metal restoration shops around the country and they have reached the same conclusion as me. So I guess they are all wrong as well.
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    Perfect Rivets

    I disagree.
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    Perfect Rivets

    So I guess the previous question was a non-sequitor.
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    Perfect Rivets

    The components in the alloys are created by nature too. So good luck!
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    Perfect Rivets

    Explosive rivets, try finding them. lol
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    Perfect Rivets

    You are right. A lot of books mention about using ice box rivets or equivalent. They discuss a lot about an engineering approach to it. All the sheet metal restoration shops I have talked to are mostly talking about using the smallest rivet gun possible for the job and even using ice box...
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    Perfect Rivets

    🤣 Nope, I do practice what I preach. 😂🤣 If I already understand this, it means I am getting it done! No not trying to dazzle with knowledge, trying to help.
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