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    New to USA .... G1 from france

    I like the all metal design plus folding wing arrangement. Kind of a Zenith Cruzer w/ Kitfox folding wing combination. We offer builders assist services at our facility. Use our expertise to make your built even shorter. You will still meet the 51% amateur built criteria. Do you know if...
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    Not so complicated but proven conversion?

    There is a YouTube video that shows the installed weight of the Viking 90 as 193#. So 34# over dry weight. The Viking 90HP was unbolted and suspended with a scale just after a flight with only propeller removed. The same video shows the shipping weight as 159# -160#. Seems that would...
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    Not so complicated but proven conversion?

    If I understand your point, that is because sometimes the included components for an engines published weight are not listed. A published "empty weight" for an engine is not meaningful unless you know if that includes exhaust, radiator, alternator etc. Then comes fluids for the installed...
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    Not so complicated but proven conversion?

    With regard to the OP and weight concerns, this discussion has included the Viking 90HP 3cyl Mitsubishi auto conversion. A bit of research shows the Viking 90HP engine's installed total weight with all accessories (exhaust/alternator/radiator etc.) and fluids ready for propeller is 193 lbs...
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    Not so complicated but proven conversion?

    Agree and appreciate your thoughts....except the "For every guy you know ... I could counter..". This line is flawed simply because the sample size is just too small to make any such conclusion. That is why personality based comments are not appropriate. That is also why I referenced the...
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    Not so complicated but proven conversion?

    No company has a 100% perfect success rate even with a good product. Further, every business including Viking relies on both internal tests and also customer experiences to some degree. The development of Rotax, Jabiru, UL Power engines etc is an ample record of this process. How many...
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    Not so complicated but proven conversion?

    Rik- said: Just curious, why did no one recommend the viking (aka Honda) engines? Is it due to Jan's reputation No. That does NOT say really anything relevant at all in 2020. Just name calling. Nor does this kind of cheap shot speak to the Viking Honda conversion's success over the past...
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    Not so complicated but proven conversion?

    Exactly. Aeromomentum chose Toyota. Heliano's choice in Brazil is the Hyundai. Viking offers the 3 cylinder Mitsubishi Mirage engine. For those lacking time and skill, better to buy ready to bolt on. All well proven engines capable of more than 200,000 road miles if taken care of...
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    The big video topic

    Compliments of AvWeb. Two 10 minute videos of our tax dollars hard at work through the service of our men and women at sea. Gripping. Thanks also to PBS for spending money so wisely. U.S.S. Nimitz was in port on Guam for four days just in June. Nimitz Hill is a beautiful hill area with...
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    Not so complicated but proven conversion?

    THANKS. There is ample discussion by real owners of both the Aeromomentum and the Viking engines on the Zenith Engine Forums. Also for the Corvair, or UL Power or Rotax or Jabiru or Lycoming or Continental. Much of the decision depends on airframe, mission, and personal preferences of the...
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    Not so complicated but proven conversion?

    I checked with someone who attended the recent October 2020 Zenith Factory Homecoming. I was told that UL Power and Viking, both 130HP and therefore heavier, were clearly the engines of choice. Jon Croke of HBHelp says it is important to talk to several folks who are flying the engine for a...
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    Not so complicated but proven conversion?

    What aircraft do you have? Gross weight allowance is not the only factor. Your plane with a Gross Weight of 1300# is quite usual. The Zenith Cruzer and STOL are both 1320# Gross Weight. These aircraft regularly fly with 130HP engines. Even the 1100# Gross CH701 has been fitted with 130HP...
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    New EAA Chapter Build Project SoCal

    Several years ago, I was actively looking for an EAA chapter that would be willing to put a build team together. Very difficult to do. EAA did not offer any information in a database for chapters willing to do build projects like VB's. I moved on and bought an LSA. Had a poor...
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    modern equivalent to doped canvas?

    How about Oratex. Tough stuff and easy to repair. https://betteraircraftfabric.com/specifications.html
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