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      luked replied to the thread Modified Frise style ailerons.
      Yep, I just noticed that thread in the new posts list, and started reading it. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
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      luked replied to the thread Modified Frise style ailerons.
      TFF, I guess what I was getting at when I referenced Grumman style ailerons was the specific details of how Grumman implemented plain...
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      luked replied to the thread Modified Frise style ailerons.
      Dan, I agree about rudder in slow flight, and logically I guess aileron design probably doesn't make a big difference in maintaining...
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      luked replied to the thread Modified Frise style ailerons.
      Billski, thanks for another detailed discussion. The distinction between straight ahead flight and an aircraft that has entered a steady...
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      luked replied to the thread Modified Frise style ailerons.
      This brings up a question I hadn't thought of before. When ailerons are used is the upgoing wing (aileron down side) not only increasing...
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      luked replied to the thread Modified Frise style ailerons.
      PMD and Challenger, thanks for the first hand accounts. Do you know if these planes incorporate differential? Also, do the ailerons seem...
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      luked replied to the thread Modified Frise style ailerons.
      Flitzerpilot, thank you for sharing the details of the later Frise design. It seems like there is a diminishing return (if any) when you...
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      luked replied to the thread Modified Frise style ailerons.
      I found some pictures. Those flaps go almost to the end of the wing. I also found a picture of a crashed TBM where you can clearly see...
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      luked replied to the thread Modified Frise style ailerons.
      All good points. I wasn't necessarily considering dropping the Frise ailerons. It might be a matter of choosing which flavor (Cessna vs...
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      luked replied to the thread Modified Frise style ailerons.
      Well, you're probably right. I just measured the trailing edge of my plane with a tape measure where it meets the flap trailing edge...
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      luked replied to the thread Modified Frise style ailerons.
      The aileron differential on my 150 is about 2 to 1. I planned to provide some differential by the use of a cable driven bellcrank in the...
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      luked replied to the thread Modified Frise style ailerons.
      I'm not shooting for hands off flying, but I would like decouple roll and yaw inputs somewhat. I'm working on a wing design for a...
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      luked replied to the thread Modified Frise style ailerons.
      Thanks for the detailed explanation. It's a lot do digest. Of course the difficult part is the fact that we're talking about general...
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      luked replied to the thread Modified Frise style ailerons.
      I guess adverse yaw isn't a problem if you don't mind it. I know there are quite a few pilots that learned in planes with lot's of...
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      My understanding is that Frise type ailerons provide two main benefits. First, as the trailing edge rises, the leading edge dips down...
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