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    Re: About to build Pietenpol - How do I first go about it?

    Lots and lots of successful Ford powed Pietenpols. A motorcycle on a Pietenpol is easy to change if you are not happy. Being close to Broadhead and surrounded by Pietenpols where I live I've seen quite a few and have had pretty long conversations with the owners.

    No matter what you put it you'll be happy. You're not building a cross country traveler or a Reno racer. The little 65's are definitely great, same with the Ford, it depends on the type of personality you have. Either way, it's a cool set up.

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    Re: About to build Pietenpol - How do I first go about it?

    He might call the Neiuport PETE, but a Piet empty weighs about 300 pounds more than that Graham Neiuport.

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    Re: About to build Pietenpol - How do I first go about it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mcrae0104 View Post
    Hmm, might want to double check that plane's type.
    Yaw right, not the first time I've confused the 2 either, , but it's still cute!


    Quote Originally Posted by Little Scrapper View Post
    Lots and lots of successful Ford powed Pietenpols.
    I'm sure there is, and good luck to them, but unless you want an exact replica which some indeed do, I just can't see the point, especially for weight issues.

    But that's me.
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    Re: About to build Pietenpol - How do I first go about it?

    Quote Originally Posted by cheapracer View Post
    I'm sure there is, and good luck to them, but unless you want an exact replica which some indeed do, I just can't see the point, ....
    Authenticity verses some degree of improved utility; depends on what the owner wants.


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    Re: About to build Pietenpol - How do I first go about it?

    Quote Originally Posted by BJC View Post
    Authenticity verses some degree of improved utility; depends on what the owner wants.
    Yes, something I've never understood, but as I said, that's me. When I stand there watching my Mate take off in his Pie..., errr, Neiuport, I can't see what engine he's using, and it's a huge favorite at shows and no one in the audience cares what engine either.

    But that's them
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    Re: About to build Pietenpol - How do I first go about it?

    Well, a Ford A might not be practical but either is a Pietenpol. Either is a Cassutt. Either is a Cub. Either is a biplane.

    If you ever have a chance to own a Knuclehead or a Flathead Harley, definitely do it. I'm not talking about sitting on one or riding one, but actual owning one. There's nothing practical about it. If you ride it you work on it. Period. It actually feels good to work on it. That's part of the joy. Nothing on a knucklehead is handy to work on, it takes special person to love them. A Ford powered Pietenpol is the same thing, there's no difference. People don't put Fords on Piets to be practical.

    Some people get it. Most people don't.

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    Re: About to build Pietenpol - How do I first go about it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turd Ferguson View Post
    do you know if it was built to standard dimensions or not?
    Don't know, can only assume it was as the aircraft was an EAA chapter project.
    I've never met an airplane or helicopter that I didn't like

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    Re: About to build Pietenpol - How do I first go about it?

    The only way I would have a model A engine on a Piet is if I had my own grass airstrip. If anybody has access to model A cores it would be me. My neighbor across the road from me has them stacked up like cord wood. He has passed away but his widow is still around and would probably give one up if I asked. He would never let me have one because he hated to see them used anywhere but in an original restoration. I wanted to build one up and mount on a stand for a shop fan. I grew up in KC and Kenny Perkins was our local Ford guru(still is) Lots of Perkys videos to watch on YT. He makes prop hubs and everything you need to go Ford flying. The pic I posted of the Piet was a Ford Piet. The owner told me after the Ford quit running 4 times he had enough. He wanted to fly to Broadhead and land where he chose, not where the Ford chose. I like 'em but only with gliding distance of home.

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    Re: About to build Pietenpol - How do I first go about it?

    Defiantly only a once a year long adventure plane for the brave, not a weekend traveling plane. If picky Ford B is the way to go, pressure lubrication.

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    Re: About to build Pietenpol - How do I first go about it?

    The only Piet I've flown is Ford powered and I have to say it's a nice little airplane. It's not perfect (hell, there's even a couple things that should be fixed) but all in all it's a very pleasant little airplane and about the cheapest time machine I imagine you'll ever find. A stock Model A is about 40hp but it's torquey and doesn't feel at all like a 40hp Continental does.

    I'd still like to try out an A65 powered Piet for comparison... and a Corvair Piet, and maybe one with a radial, and...

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    Re: About to build Pietenpol - How do I first go about it?

    I'd also steer clear of the Model A engine unless you're ABSOLUTELY sure it's for you and you've really researched it.
    We had quite a bit of trouble doing the babbit bearings in the one we built.But it was for a car so it wasnt a issue when it quit .Although it's been a long time since my dad and I built ours so maybe someone makes insert style bearing shells for them these days.

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    Re: About to build Pietenpol - How do I first go about it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger Tim View Post
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    Re: About to build Pietenpol - How do I first go about it?

    Well if it was me I'd mount a 145 ci. Corvair and keep the stock cooling fan on my Pete. I think you would have alot better chance of finding part's. But heck that's just me.
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    Re: About to build Pietenpol - How do I first go about it?

    The Ford engine adds authenticity (or at least it lends a nice vintage aura... being a homebuilt, I'm not sure if "authentic" is an applicable term), but I don't know what you sacrifice in terms of weight, performance, and reliability. On the other hand, a Piet with Continental is still a damned fine looking plane.

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    Re: About to build Pietenpol - How do I first go about it?

    Guess it doesn't matter what is stuffed under the cowling as long as it's dependable and easy to maintain. As a first time builder that's what I'd be looking at.
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