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    How does it fly?

    Saw the link to a Goldwing ultralight kit for sale. I've always been intrigued by the design, but never have met anyone who has flown one. Also thinking about Rockeydog2's comments about how the OV-10 Bronco flew, especially the effect that the propellers have on lift when power is reduced.

    This thread is intended to be one where anyone can ask, "How does a bug-smasher fly?"

    So, how does a Goldwing ultralight fly?

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    Re: How does it fly?

    Would be good to ask this guy on how the goldwing UL flys. Click image for larger version. 

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    Re: How does it fly?

    Looks like a staged photo to me, Don.


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    Re: How does it fly?

    Yes I bet your right. I would think it is a fair flying aircraft probably not too fast..
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    Re: How does it fly?

    Contact Catto Propellers in northern California. Craig Catto designed and sold the Goldwing UL back in the previous century.

    Craig is a truly GREAT guy and an asset to aviation, he lives, breathes and sleeps aviation, so please treat him with respect.

    Craig was also part of the team under Ilan Kroo that developed the SWIFT foot launch glider.
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    Re: How does it fly?

    I know someone that needs a canard for his Goldwing. The one in the photo could have gone to a new home if it survived.

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    Re: How does it fly?

    Apparently, no one here has flown a Goldwing.

    How does a VP-1 fly? I'm not asking about performance specs, but I am asking about its stability, control forces and harmony.


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    Re: How does it fly?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARP View Post
    I know someone that needs a canard for his Goldwing. The one in the photo could have gone to a new home if it survived.
    Oh my goodness ARP... is that a Platz Sail-wing glider in your avatar??? It sure looks like one, except modified for a typical hang glider harness instead of the solid keel of the original. I built a free flight model of the Sail-wing (laminated curved balsa keel and all)and it flew reasonably well with a small electric setup.

    WOW... I really hope someone built one of those and demonstrated the hand-control system !!! PLEASE tell us the story behind whatever that is in the avatar
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    Re: How does it fly?

    I think they were pretty amazing for the day. I watched one fly at OSH way back, wow, come to think of it, it may have been Craig Catto giving the demo flight.
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    I remember visiting the factory back in the late 70's with my dad to see the Goldwing. Dad never flew one but he was all fired up for one back then. The factory demonstrator still had the hole in the bottom of the fuselage to accomodate the "foot launch" rule at the time (pre 103, I suspect).

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    Re: How does it fly?

    Quote Originally Posted by BJC View Post
    Also thinking about Rockeydog2's comments about how the OV-10 Bronco flew, especially the effect that the propellers have on lift when power is reduced.
    That other turbine twin by Rockwell did the same thing.....the Turbo Commander.
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    Re: How does it fly?

    Quote Originally Posted by BJC View Post
    Apparently, no one here has flown a Goldwing.

    How does a VP-1 fly? I'm not asking about performance specs, but I am asking about its stability, control forces and harmony.


    BJC

    I built a VW engine for one. Just flew it down a long runway in ground effect to check the engine rpm's . Seems like a nice fun little airplane. I think its a better airplane than most people believe.


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    Re: How does it fly?

    I've been in a VP-2, but as a little kid lacked the experience to comment on control harmony, but I do recall that Dad was generally unimpressed.

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    Re: How does it fly?

    Victor Bravo,

    Not a Platz but similar in planform. Canards were not used for control, just weight shift. Some film of it exists on Youtube :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDUrX_o727Y or I can send photos direct if you wish. Designed for very slow flight at high angle of attack without stalling.

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    Re: How does it fly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Victor Bravo View Post
    is that a Platz Sail-wing glider... I really hope someone built one of those and demonstrated the hand-control system !!!
    Well somebody built one, and I swear I've seen a picture of it flying somewhere.


    I'm sure there's more info on it online.

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