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    Re: 3rd Class Medical Reform still alive...

    Quote Originally Posted by Glider View Post
    If you have a significant other, by God, ensure that person has training that may rescue you, her/him, any passengers, any people on the ground, your expensive plane, and other people's property.
    This is easy to say but some wives, like mine, will not touch the controls. I tell her "If I have a heart attack, you're dead. You might as well roll over and split-S into the ground. Make an impressive hole for other non-flying wives."

    Oddly, this does not motivate her. :-)
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    FAA news / links

    https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=87125

    Warning: you may actually become dumber if you read the above link.

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    Re: FAA news / links

    What is the problem with the information on that link? Looks like the FAA complying with the recent PBOR legislation.
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    Re: 3rd Class Medical Reform still alive...

    Here it is ...

    http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news...-228312-1.html

    From the atticle:

    Under BasicMed, a pilot will be required to complete an online medical education course every two years, undergo a medical exam every four years, and comply with aircraft and operating restrictions. The medical exam will include a four-page FAA form to be completed by your doctor and kept available by the pilot for FAA inspection. Your regular doctor can complete the form, and they dont need to deal with the FAA at all.
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    Re: FAA news / links

    This isn't the reform I was looking for. Actual reform it isn't.

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    Re: 3rd Class Medical Reform still alive...

    Ugh. So, watered down even more. The "every four years medical" is a new thing, is it not? I thought that if you'd held a medical in the last ten years, or got a new one now, you could self-certify with a driver's licence and never have to have a third-class again. This way, they have a fresh "snitch sheet" every four years, and they don't have to take the time or effort to look at it unless you have an accident.

    Once again proving that this is about protecting the bureaucracy, not acknowledging and repairing deficient rulings or actually improving safety.

    Moderator Note: Merged Scrapper's "FAA/Links" thread, which was on the same topic, into this one. Left a one-week expiring redirect in the original location.
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    Re: 3rd Class Medical Reform still alive...

    Looks almost worse than the old medical, to me.
    What family doctor will want to assume the liability of this?

    Should have went straight to self-certify, same as gliders and balloons.
    Oh well, another 10 years of decline. It would take another entity to compete with FAA that uses facts, to save private aviation.
    Sort of like Underwriters Laboratories.

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    Re: 3rd Class Medical Reform still alive...

    Quote Originally Posted by BBerson View Post
    ... What family doctor will want to assume the liability of this? ...
    Excellent point. You're going to get "I'm not qualified" from your GP, which translates as, "I don't want to take on the liability for this." Which means we'll be going to the regular flight docs anyway.

    Other than saving the FAA a bunch of money in processing third-class examinations, I don't see how this really changes anything at all.
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    Re: 3rd Class Medical Reform still alive...

    Here is the ruling from the horses mouth (make up your own joke here):

    https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/med..._2016_9157.pdf

    From the pdf:

    Furthermore, section 2307(b)(2)(C)(iv) of FESSA requires the checklist to instruct the physician to sign the checklist, stating: I certify that I discussed all items on this checklist with the individual during my examination, discussed any medications the individual is taking that could interfere with his or her ability to safely operate an aircraft or motor vehicle, and performed an examination that included all of the items on this checklist. I certify that I am not aware of any medical condition that, as presently treated, could interfere with the individual's ability to safely operate an aircraft.

    The FAA is implementing this requirement in 68.7(c)(4).
    I'm not thinking that this will fly (pun intended) very well. Liking my Sport Pilot Certificate a bit more at the moment ...

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    Re: 3rd Class Medical Reform still alive...

    I got a retired RV8 sittin here I been holding on to til the Fed finally came out with this ruling. Now it's gonna go up for sale.
    Sport Pilot it is...I'm good with that. The lower the profile the better. Stealth.

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    Re: 3rd Class Medical Reform still alive...

    We've got a plethora of "doctors" here in California that issue medical marajuana certificates to anyone who wants one. Since the recently voter-passed recreational marijauna bill eliminates the need for a medical marijuana permit, those "doctors" can replace that lost income by jumping on this new FAA rule.

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    Re: 3rd Class Medical Reform still alive...

    But the mdical marijuana certs don't put the user in a position where he can Tbone a 777 on the taxiway.

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    Re: 3rd Class Medical Reform still alive...

    The FAA has held the flying community by the balls for far too long and I believe we have allowed it in part. 60 percent or so of flying pilots in Alaska aren't licensed and they seem to be fairing just fine. Accident rates aren't anymore drastic than the national average considering the treacherous terrain/flying conditions. It is time people just stop renewing the crap and let's see what they will do.

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    Re: 3rd Class Medical Reform still alive...

    There's one good thing about this rule, though... if it looks like you're not going to pass, you just don't fill out the form and send in the paperwork. The FAA's none the wiser. You aren't stuck with that "once you start you have to finish" condition of a medical certificate, so you don't get stuck with a denial on your record. That makes it easier if you later would pass again, or if you decide to go Sport Pilot.

    I, too, would have much preferred to just do away with it entirely.
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    Re: 3rd Class Medical Reform still alive...

    I knew it, I expect nothing from the FAA and they never let me down. I hold a second class right now but as soon as my AME retires I'm letting it expire. The most fun airplanes are 100 hp and under anyway. Just leave Sport pilot alone.

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