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    A man I met through a business deal went to Oshkosh and wanted to get his kids into flying with a father son project but was discouraged by the cost of everything he saw. Then he saw the Legal Eagle and Legal Eagle XL. It is a true ultralight but solid welded aircraft tubing fuselage and standard wing construction. It flies like standard aircraft. Estimated cost to build was $3000. He ended up buying plans and materials, one for himself and one for each of his two son's. Looks like great fun and it's a true ultralight. He said the rear fuselage tubing is left uncovered to get enough drag to keep the speed low enough to qualify under the speed limit and it is well under the 254lbs so some addition of equipment can be done. I thought this might be of interest here.

    Leonard Milholand's Better Half VW and Legal Eagel Ultralight!

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    Re: Legal Eagle

    Hi There,

    Yes, the legal eagle is a good airplane. I had a modified one (with honcho wings) for a while and it was great fun. Roll control was sluggish, but overall a great, fun little airplane. It lives on over in Kansas last I heard.

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    Doug,
    the modified legal eagle narrowly escaped destruction in a hanger collapse last fall, last i heard it was still being flown regularly.

    nice to hear of a younger crowd getting involved in flying

    chris

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    Re: Legal Eagle

    Quote Originally Posted by Hart Aero View Post
    Yes, the legal eagle is a good airplane. I had a modified one (with honcho wings) for a while and it was great fun. Roll control was sluggish, but overall a great, fun little airplane.
    Hi Doug,

    How'd you like those Honcho wings? Did they seem lighter or stronger than others? Do you attribute the sluggish roll to the Honcho wings, or would the standard wings suffer the same sluggishness?

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    Re: Legal Eagle

    The sluggish roll was deffinately a result of the honcho wings, If I recall the honcho wings wings weighed about 16lbs less than the stock wood wings.

    With me in the cockpit (143lbs) and the big twin up front it would climb at 1200ft per minute.

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    Re: Legal Eagle

    Were the ailerons too small or ineffective compared to the stock wings? Seems that lighter wings would aid in roll response.

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    the stock wings are 28ft with full span ailerons, the honcho wings span 32ft and have small ailerons out on the tips.

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    Re: Legal Eagle

    That makes more sense now. Thanks.

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    Re: Legal Eagle

    Hi bmcj,

    Just my opinion only on the Eagle with the honcho wings, but ....

    I think at higher speeds that the wings twisted some under aileron deflection, lessining their effectiveness. It was never dangerous, but definetely there and once used to, didn't present any real problem.

    It also was definetly a "rudder" airplane. It required much more attention than a Cub or Luscombe in turns etc... it was slip and skid happy if you weren't "on the ball" all of the time. If you weren't watching the slip/skid indicator, you could always tell rather quickly if you weren't coordinated because air would rush in one side or the other.

    It was a fun airplane and very inexpensive to operate with the big twin 4-stroke on it.

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    Re: Legal Eagle

    Thanks Doug. I never knew that about the Honcho wing. Regardless though, the Legal Eagle looks like a blast to fly!

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    Re: Legal Eagle

    Being 6-5 and weighing 235, the XL definitely intersts me. The problem is I am a rookie welder so would have to have the welding done for me. How much welding is there (estimated time wise)?

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    Re: Legal Eagle

    Estimated weld time is hard to calculate. Too many variables.
    I think Leonard Milholland has done a great job with his design.
    I like the XL, I would put a cowl and spinner on it.
    Legal Eagle XL by Leonard Milholland

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    Re: Legal Eagle

    Quote Originally Posted by steveair2 View Post
    Estimated weld time is hard to calculate. Too many variables.
    I think Leonard Milholland has done a great job with his design.
    I like the XL, I would put a cowl and spinner on it.
    Legal Eagle XL by Leonard Milholland
    I have the XL plans, and just got the Double Eagle plans in the mail yesterday. I may actually build them, as they seem like great planes, though my main purpose is to have them for reference for our design (though it will probably be in aluminum).

    I will also be meeting with Gewrald Conckle this weekend - he's bringing down a part set for the Honcho wings for me to check out.

    I've just recently been studying the "calculated" min/max speeds for a legal 103 ultralight, and I too would like to see a cowl and spinner - as well as an enclosed fuselage. It should be possible to stay "legal" per the FAA requirements even with these. As the FAA itself says, there can be a difference between actual and calculated - and it's okay to go off of either (we will go off calculated).

    BTW, there is a gentleman who provides welded up LE and XL fuselages and other parts - his info is on Leonard's web site!

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    Re: Legal Eagle

    Well done Legal Eagle video. I love the sound of the 1/2 VW!

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    Re: Legal Eagle

    Its a little different to what I am building but I like the look of it. Do want.

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